Since his song “Rich Men North of Richmond” went viral a month ago, country singer has turned into an overnight sensation, particularly among conservatives.
However, the country singer has also become a controversial figure. Away from his army of fans, the Farmville, Virginia, resident has also been accused of promoting on his YouTube channel and .
But —the Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology —was on hand to offer Anthony advice on fame and fandom. The academic sat down with the former factory worker for an episode of The. Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, where the pair talked politics, music and mental health.
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Discussing meet-and-greets with his fans, Peterson shared tips with Anthony for putting people at ease.
“One of the things I’ve learned, for example, is that when people approach you and put out their hand to shake your hand, is that you can match your tempo to theirs,” the 61-year-old said.
“Like a dance, you move towards them about as quickly as they move towards you,” he added.
Peterson also recommended that Anthony ask people their name, as “even if they’re nervous, most people can remember their name.” This made the singer chuckle.
Peterson added that he enjoys the post-event meet-and-greets that his team organizes, as it personalizes his audience.
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“It differentiates the audience back into individuals, and you should always be communicating with individuals,” Peterson said.
“As soon as you start talking to the crowd, you’re immediately lying. You need to be talking to the individuals in the crowd.”
Peterson also warned Anthony not to “get up on his high horse” or develop a large ego.
“When you’re at the center of that much attention, [your ego] can get puffed up,” he said while gesturing at his head.
In response, Anthony said he never wants to be in a position where he feels “I’m better than anyone I’m singing to.”
“I don’t like that ego that you see come with people that are in celebrity status,” Anthony added. “It’s a tragedy. The person changes into something completely different than what people fell in love with them for.”
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Posting to on September 1, Anthony said he has had enough of .
“I am scheduling one final podcast after Rogan, that can deep dive into the nitty gritty it seems people are so desperately trying to understand,” Anthony wrote alongside a snap of him and podcaster .
“I’m simultaneously being labeled a far right extremist and a liberal by the powers at be. I love it. They are doing everything they can to cause division,” Anthony added.
Peterson’s political opinions have also caused controversy online. In July, the author was criticized for , while, in August, he called for a over its LGBTQ+-friendly packaging.